Comments on: Civics on Saturday – The Declaration of Independence http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/ Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:29:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: mrschili http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4732 mrschili Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:03:08 +0000 http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4732 Dudley, I couldn't agree more. It burns me to a crisp to hear people clamoring for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. The only thing, as far as I can tell, that the Constitution bans outright is slavery (we tried with prohibition, but that, wisely, was reversed). The Constitution CAN'T be used to deny people rights - it just can't - and I will fight every single day against such proposals. It goes against everything we stand for. Dudley, I couldn’t agree more. It burns me to a crisp to hear people clamoring for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. The only thing, as far as I can tell, that the Constitution bans outright is slavery (we tried with prohibition, but that, wisely, was reversed). The Constitution CAN’T be used to deny people rights – it just can’t – and I will fight every single day against such proposals. It goes against everything we stand for.

]]> By: Dudley http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4667 Dudley Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:22:17 +0000 http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4667 "Essentially, this bit is saying that rights don’t come from government: it’s not the king or the czar or the pharaoh or whoever’s making the rules who gets to say what rights people get, it’s for GOD to say. The fact that we exist, the framers said, automatically grants us these rights: they’re non-negotiable. Government doesn’t exist to bestow rights, they go on to claim, it exists to protect them. Once a government fails to do that, it is the right of the governed to get rid of that system." I think the above observation is one of the most important you made, and becomes extremely important when looking at the constitution. Our rights are inherently ours. The government simply recognizes them and then protects them with written laws. The Bill of Rights and the ammendments that followed were put in place to calrify our collective understanding of these rights. Unfortunately they have, in my opinion, been misused from time to time by trying to take rights away (i.e. prohibition - 18th ammendement). The idea of an ammendment to ban gay marriage would be another abuse of the ammendment process. This notion that our rights belong to us at birth is the foundation of our free society. We should tread lightly when looking to make changes. “Essentially, this bit is saying that rights don’t come from government: it’s not the king or the czar or the pharaoh or whoever’s making the rules who gets to say what rights people get, it’s for GOD to say. The fact that we exist, the framers said, automatically grants us these rights: they’re non-negotiable. Government doesn’t exist to bestow rights, they go on to claim, it exists to protect them. Once a government fails to do that, it is the right of the governed to get rid of that system.”

I think the above observation is one of the most important you made, and becomes extremely important when looking at the constitution.

Our rights are inherently ours. The government simply recognizes them and then protects them with written laws. The Bill of Rights and the ammendments that followed were put in place to calrify our collective understanding of these rights.

Unfortunately they have, in my opinion, been misused from time to time by trying to take rights away (i.e. prohibition – 18th ammendement). The idea of an ammendment to ban gay marriage would be another abuse of the ammendment process.

This notion that our rights belong to us at birth is the foundation of our free society. We should tread lightly when looking to make changes.

]]> By: saintseester http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4646 saintseester Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:35:21 +0000 http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4646 If nothing else, everyone should read and study this particular document. I took my kids to see the original last year. I was shocked by how faded it was, barely legible. If nothing else, everyone should read and study this particular document. I took my kids to see the original last year. I was shocked by how faded it was, barely legible.

]]> By: Thomas http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4607 Thomas Sat, 01 Sep 2007 14:28:28 +0000 http://theinnerdoor.wordpress.com/2007/09/01/civics-on-saturday-the-declaration-of-independence/#comment-4607 How about the slavery clause that they made him take out? Jefferson took the time to blame the King for allowing slavery and called for its abolition. It got cut. Imagine that. Damn TV How about the slavery clause that they made him take out?
Jefferson took the time to blame the King for allowing slavery and called for its abolition.

It got cut.
Imagine that.

Damn

TV

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